Simca 1301 (1501 engine) Special
Simca 1300 - 1301 and Simca 1500 - Chrysler cars Alpine 1501.
The Simca 1300 and 1500 cars were also the basis of the Chrysler Alpine; For this reason, the focus of this article is on the pictures, not on the number and data All the photos in this article are from Simca catalogs and original manuals sometimes it was quite work to get there in a presentable form.
The models and their designations are often mixed, sometimes even ones you expect them to know better this text that I sometimes use the words 00 and 01 as an abbreviation 1300 1500 and 1301 1501.
So to make things clearer for you, dear reader and fellow car-lover, in a nutshell how you can distinguish the two series at first glance.
1300 1500 Sedans are easily identified by the rounded shoe and round rear lights The dashboard still a large round dial with includes all the meters and warning lights.
1301 1501 easily identified as the models look stretched, with a rear right side and rectangular tail lights, flat hood and a more prominent peak before rear sides of the car from the first and second series of station are identical The dashboard is flat and right with horizontal speedometer, in later models replaced by a dashboard with four round dials.
Both series are were delivered sedans and cars Station 4 door 4 door, which had either 1300 or 1500 cc four-cylinder inline engine with manual transmission 4-speed or possibly Borg Warner 3 gearboxes Speed automatic on some models.
4 door sedan are called in French saloon cars of the station wagon but may have the tourist type designation.
The first series Introduced in 1963, the latest 1966 model year was.
After three generations of Aronde, it was time was something really new when the 1300 1500 appeared on the market, the series became a big hit.
The new cars were modern, clean shape, good quality, and praised their leadership virtues The interiors are nice, bright and spacious room with six people in the back there was a lot of space to store luggage, with a nice flat floor lifting carpets of the shoe, we found the spare wheel, recessed into the fuel tank in the car of the station called Pause or tourism, there was a metallic floor panel rigid to cover the area of the spare wheel on the top model, this panel has been equipped with folding legs so it can be used as a picnic table pictured But believe me, it was pretty heavy and not so easy to manipulate a picnic table.
these days press review talking sports car like handling due to very modern rear axle Yes, with the disappearance of the Aronde, Gone are the days of leaf springs spring leaves cars are not known for their leadership exact, but with the Aronde, cornering sharply, we can feel the rear axle to beat or jump.
The newly designed rigid axle had the coil springs around the dampers, there were 4 arms so that the two lower arms absorbed the acceleration and braking forces, while the upper short arms were to keep the axle in Place a Panhard bar to face the side Unfortunately the forces, both in 1300 and 1500 lacked a bit of engine power to really achieve the sports car areas.
On offer were in 1300 and 1500 engines, which were further developments of the venerable game.
Both series have fully synchronized manual gearbox 4-speed column shift.
Later, in 1500 could eventually change with soil or introduced in late 1965, an automatic transmission type Borg Warner 3 speed 35, for which the power output was increased to 84 HP SAE HP 72 DIN.
1300 had a calender slightly forward pointing with nine horizontal bars and vertical 3, while the grid 1500 is composed of thin horizontal bars 11, slightly recessed in the middle part In comparison with the 1300, the visor rear shock of 1500 was extended to the rear wheel arches 1500 had chrome work on door window frames.
trim levels and cars release generally differ from one country to another Talking Dutch market alone, 00 Simca had four trim levels, which has changed little over the years.
First, there was the 1300 1300 GL 1500 and GL 1500.
In 1966 it was changed to 1300L LS 1300 and 1500 GL 1500 GLS car station could have with the engine 1500 1966 1500 1500 Tourist Tourist GLS.
To give an impression, in 1966, the basic model for the 4-door sedans was the choice 1300L 6 body colors, standard jersey upholstery see photo or optionally vinyl following was 1300 LS choice of 9 body colors, standard upholstery fabric or vinyl, optionally a Rolon.
1500 was the GL and GLS, which were much more luxurious if that is the right word with features like comfortable seats with fully reclining back They had more chrome and again, new choice of body colors was available GLS was version clearly high, with the table of lacquered wood imitation board instead of light gray.
Production of 00 ended after the introduction of the new single model 01 series persevered end of 1966 for another year, as the 1300L, which operated as input model for cheap Simca middle class sedans.
The options were apparently not wanted in those days, I could not find information about this subject catalogs speak of optional upholstery but it s white wall tires and radial tires I remember my father drove on Michelin X tires were optional, as it should have been the rack on the car of the station.
The second series, introduced in late 1966, was built until 1975.
This second series was not the new car, you might think it is, but it certainly seems new has been achieved by working very intelligent and effective reform, which the appearance of the longest car and smoother finishing addition levels, one outside could indeed distinguish only in 1301 from a 1501 by the shortest rear bumper.
The designer point of view of the central part of the car doors was unchanged are interchangeable between the first and the second series of the C-pillar, ventilation openings have been placed, change the look of the car These openings ventilation were however not a gimmick but a design improvement practice for passenger environment.
The metal front and rear was new, although the front wings have been slightly modified to accommodate the new indicators The cover was larger and flatter with cleverly drawn profiles, which added much to the appearance of raised the car at the rear, the boot was slightly tense, but the rear wings were edgier and plain trunk lid, the car had the largest air that was really new rectangular taillights included lights back on more expensive models.
Speaking of lights save perhaps you wondered why cars in France had orange glasses when you had clear lens taillights in other countries is due to the French legislation stipulating that no white lights were allowed in the back of a car this changed at the beginning of the seventy years, but the lights remain yellow until the European Union.
Other national laws led to cars on the Italian market to have any orange indicator on the front never noticed Simca 1100, 1204 in the United States, lost oranges inserts in their indicator lenses, such as VW bus to 1972 the contrary, in western Germany cars are not allowed to have white indicators that is why Simca Aronde s Ariane and 1500 have been modified to have orange indicator lenses.
Inside, a new array of attractive flat edge gave a modern and spacious setting watching the dashboard had a new sliding speedometer dials with other side for the rest, nothing sensational happened that the seats have new models.
On the technical field, nothing really new was to discover the engines of the preceding series were postponed virtually unchanged.
Model 1969-the new 1501 version called cial Sp Outside, it is recognizable by two round fog lamps Cibie mounted on the front bumper to this model, the 72 HP engine DIN has been upgraded to 81 DIN HP, a real improvement This engine is known as Type 342S.
The dashboard is the same as the GLS had the small rectangular clock in the middle of the dashboard and a decoration in stainless steel on the lower part of the dashboard, including the cigarette lighter The difference from the GLS is sports car with 3 branches as steering wheel with aluminum spokes and wooden rim as the wheel was no provision to activate the horn, the left side of the dashboard that you are getting a tip stick to sound the horn a another was an additional midconsole with a grill for the speaker in the radio option, which in those days thought car stereo.
Incidentally until 1970 there was no provision for the radio with the 1300 1500 and early 1301 in 1501, it was mounted under the dashboard in an accessory housing.
The next model year has already seen a real facelift for the Sp cial 1501, as again by intelligent design, simply by rearranging the grid, the car has a new look to the place of common anodized grille, lodged a two rectangular mold rectangular yellow projectors, all mounted on an invisible black grid.
All 1970 models received a new picture of attractive edge in which the sliding speedometer has been replaced by a more contemporary version with four circular instruments in a simulated wood surface He gave a modern and sporty look.
1971 saw the introduction of the 1301 Sp cial who did not get the new face Sp cial until model year 1972.
1972 Model 1301 was originally intended to replace 1501 to 1971 by the new Simca 1800 However, the 1800 has never seen; Instead came the French Chryslers because their lack of success, the 1301 1501 life production had to be extended until 1976 a true successor appeared the Simca 1307 1308 Unsurprisingly, no real changes have been applied to 1301 1501 in their later years.
1301 Sedan approximately 990 kg 2,182 pounds Sedan 1501 1 010 kg, 2227 lbs.
1301 1290 cc model, 62 hp SAE 54 DIN HP, top speed 133 km h; Model 1501 1475 cc, 81 hp SAE 69 DIN HP, top speed 146 km h In recent years, 1301 was 67 DIN HP and 73 HP DIN 1501.
Model LS 1967 1301, 1301 GL, GLS 1301 LS, GL 1501 1501 1501 GLS Data on the drive to the station model 1968 LS 1301 1301 GL, GLS 1301 1301 tourist LS; GL 1501 GLS GLS 1501 1501 1969 1301 Tourist Model LS 1301 GL; GL 1501, 1501 cial Sp, Sp tourist cial Model 1501 1970 no specific model LS 1971 1301 1301 Sp cial cial 1301 Sp tourism; cial Model 1501 Sp tourism 1972 no 1973 model given any data model 1974 1301 cial Sp 1301 Sp cial Tourism; Cial Sp 1501 Sp cial Model 1501 1975 1301 cial tourist Sp 1301 Sp cial Tourism; Cielle 1501 Sp cial 1501 Tourist Sp.
I could not go back much information about it, apart from the automatic gearbox In 1969 options were mentioned a tachometer and yes alloy wheels later the pretty vinyl roof appeared Radio antenna and you had to organized by the car dealer as items such as towing hook flashing and security until later panic lights became standard.
The 01 has at first, but does not match the success of its predecessor Although the body was fresh, the technique has rapidly become obsolete the older engines, actually even Rushes updated, had camshafts mounted on the side and were notoriously high because of rattling caused by the swing arms.
The 01 were to be replaced by the new Simca 1800 1970 1971 Simca 1800's but never saw the light of day, but due to internal Hasling of the company, in its place came the new Chrysler 160 in France 180 because of the disastrous marketing these into a total failure for more information on these models, we indicate the pages related to Allpar instead.
Apart from any internal policy of the company, 160 180 although a nice car itself was simply too big to be a successor to the 01 one way or another he did not even have the car version of the new station failure 160 180 leads to the decision to rush into the 1301 production.
Finally, in 1976, a new car that can be considered in 1301 real successor in 1501 of Simca appeared promising new Simca 1307 1308 These were indeed modern cars and comfortable again no car station, but appeared that two old problems were deferred rust all Simca s and bad gearboxes 1100.
Finally, came the decision of the very unwise business rename Simca in Talbot Nobody even me as a fan-Simca Simca Anything considered as cars of the famous old brand Talbot Nobody understood what was Talbot do it, it seemed almost foreign Anyway, the audience laughed at the rebranding exercise.
This new brand was exactly what Simca could not use it for the accelerated end of Simca that for so long had been a good company and a good brand cars, but that's another story.
Although my parents and I had six 0s and 01s between 1963 and 1980, I do not remember real mechanical problems or other defects in design or it should be the small guide wheel column mounted hand brake me this little wheel in the engine compartment at the bottom of the steering column, guide the corner handbrake cable at a sharp angle under the car to the rear wheel brakes due to the high forces that work there, the wheel may come off the older cars, leaving no hand brake.
Looking in T V-Autoreport 1973 a year on data from the German car inspection department no sensational value could be found on the average Mentioned weaknesses relative to comparable cars were in the categories break led break pipes and levers direction and of course cars auditing body who were aged 4 to 6 years.
A serious problem that I do know about the personal experience, I have to admit, is one that can cause fatal engine problems on older cars to explain the construction of the rolling average camshaft remember those days were pre-head camshaft is lubricated from below by a small lubrication hole the bearing itself has a keyway and thence to a lubrication channel along the entire height of the rocker shaft.
When the car gets, normal wear of camshaft bearings causes the oil pressure to obtain lower A at a certain moment, due to how the lubrication system of the layout as above, the will not or insufficiently reach rockers the result is that the works rocker dry from lack of lubrication This damage is indicated by his wicked clapping the engine side it means a lot of work.
In the same line problem, I was told that the camshaft itself could dry up because of oil residue clogging lubrication channels, but if some readers know better, please correct me.
The four-speed transmissions do not cause problems, in stark contrast to the last Simca 1100 in the United States in 1204, which seemed to have a 3rd speed until the one-year warranty was a point anxiety may however be the wear of the stem displacement guides which can lead to a defect of the second synchronization gear.
The old engine, but venerable was not designed for high speeds, mainly because of its rattle, but reliable and easy to maintain There is a centrifugal oil filter at the end of the crank shaft This filter oil also acts as a drive wheel for the V- belt for the water pump and generator.
As the cars had 4-speed gearbox, 125 km u, tachometer indicate 4500 RPM In general, fuel consumption we experienced was about 1 liter 10 to 11 on 23 km 5 mpg .
I remember that my father drove both 1500 and 1501 cial Sp between 1964 and 1971, he bought them again and after two, maybe three years he swapped for a new car then they had 120 000 km 74.564 experience of miles, which was considered quite something my father always made sure that his cars were well maintained look good after your car and it will look good after you but they really work for them money, so to speak at the end, they still seemed fresh, but were a little tired.
For those who bought an automatic 1301 there was the disappointment of the automatic transmission Borg Warner was much too heavy for the engine 1290 cc Due to the voltage to get the car moving and keep it moving, drive these cars had limited lifespan automatic version was considered incredibly slow.
Apart from this, the well-run car was actually understeered The lack of engine power has contributed to this, of course, it was really not Drifter The steering, suspension and brakes made an easy car to drive, one you might not much wrong with.
About the handling of the car, the parking brake was operated by a telescopic handbrake stick to the bottom of the steering column It comes from the days of the complete front seat and was not a problem itself However, if you want to do a 180 turn with the car, operate the handbrake has not been easy because he had to lean forward to grab it.
In reviewing the work of the body, one word immediately comes to mind RUST.
Yes, Simcas DO rust, in fact, they do very well rust.
Common rust exposed areas are the front wings around the lamp head mud were formed around the indicator of the front housing, the lower ends of front fenders, lower portions of doors, wheel arches bumpers back and the sheet below the rear bumper other highly vulnerable areas are under the sole and jacking up the lifting holders are rectangular tubes mounted below the threshold in these mountains, dirt, mud and wet find a quiet place to linger and make their fatal work when you want to change a flat tire or a brake inspection, never go and just use the mounting bracket to a 00 01 original jacking because you assume that it is there for the function that you can meet halfway jacking the car sound cracking above your short Simca back down without your permission more often, having successfully placed decision if the mountain is still there, when starting start, taking up, not the car.
Unsurprisingly, floor pan before the outer sides can provide an unwanted glimpse of the asphalt below.
As with the latest Chrysler 160 France 2 liters, rust could cause the rear plate lamp head to rust so bad that there would be nothing to fix the more Another weak point head lamp are metal clips, in particular for chrome bands forward as the cial Sp.
Notorious are the door locks after a few years, corrosion of the metal alloy causes wear terribly locks so you can open the door with a key or not Simca.
In general, we can say that the 1300 1500 were good cars for their time, as was the 1301 1501, but it quickly became obsolete, especially with their bad reputation with regard to rust and an engine that was become old fashioned Unfortunately, no real successor came to the series.
Today, the 00 and 01 are undervalued in my personal opinion For those who want to own a classic car, a Simca 00 or 01 might be a good choice You must have an eye watching rust But if you are ready to do more treat the car with a little more love and consideration that is usually done with a daily dip, you'll be surprised by the pleasure of the Simca to drive, it's reliability and ease of maintenance.
Because of its rustablility and underappreciation, a 00 or 01 fine is not easy to find even today, the prices are usually very reasonable.
Unfortunately, many Simca driving around today are not in their original condition in my opinion, they are often spoiled or poorly mixed interior, CD player, large speakers remember, we must make large holes in your classic car to accommodate, oversized tachometer on roughly screwed dashboard, modern fog lights and other extras that are the wrong style.
An original car factory may be best, but a car that should not be original to be a nice car or desirable items like additional gauges that help you monitor the status of your car or a beautiful standard alloy wheels that are or LOOKS be the period which could object to that.
On the other hand, a car hobby is quite expensive, so one can not expect any owner to simply spend the money for his home state drive also practical reasons can count.
On the French Simca club website, I found a really excellent list of types of production, the chassis numbers and by M. Bellanger production numbers if I am not mistaken is the exact site If your French language skills aren t so far, simply turn to page 2.
In this list, you see clearly what types were produced as usual, marketing dictates different service programs for different countries for example, I have never seen a 1300 car station here in the Netherlands too, I would have like owning a car of UU series utility station as shown on the website mentioned above.
I can not tell you too much about it, but I have in my possession two articles of the Technical Automobile Journal on a 1300-1301 1963 to December 1969 and the other on the 1970 GL GLS 1501 and Sp cial 1969 1970.
As the Simca 1300 1500 was a very popular car in its day, several large-scale models were issued, however, his successor, 01 apparently had not been considered a true innovation, so no large-scale models were made, at least as much as I know, until the early 90s by Norev, both in 1st 87 and January 43 modern models, I have not listed.
Dinky Toys France No. 523 - Simca 1500 Sedan, January 43, the metal produced in metallic gray and light blue, both with red interiors As a model, the roof line is too high, giving too large windows view the image below, showing the original box model has come.
Dinky Toys France No. 507 Simca 1500 GLS Station car scale 1 43 This heavy metal and very accurate model, it does not sidebands a nice detail of the latest GLS is the opening boot with sliding window the camping table with feet like the original a See picture below showing the original box model has come.
Italy No Polystil Simca 1500 Sedan, January 43, metallic blue with red interior metal doors before opening hood opening is not a beautiful accurate model, but a wheel detail are surprisingly very accurate.
Unknown brand of France - Simca 1300 Sedan January 20, blue plastic body is very accurate, but with a disappointing interior fairly flat metal, as was common in the 60s Maybe there was a version with a trunk of opening and engine cover, but the model I know, they were screwed to the bottom plate only the front windows can slide open.
Minix GB 9 - Simca 1300 Sedan, January 76, dark blue plastic with gray interior A nice model, especially when looking at contemporary car models.
Norev F, No. - Simca 1500 Sedan, January 86, in light yellow plastic, no not within the greatest models, but it was what was the norm at the time.
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