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2 memories stick on these I remember reading an article that said that the convertible version of the Alliance would 91g on the skidpad at the time was the thin air that the Vette and Porsche and Ferrari lived in course it wasn t true in the real world I remember the movie Gung Ho Michael Keaton was filmed in the Kenosha plant where the LLIANCE has assembled pp was built first put together what he was booed ironic to see a movie on Japanese automakers where the car involved was a poor excuse POS french nightmare of a car.
Neither the Alliance or Encore ever walked my driveway, but a neighbor had a car's, which proved problematic Thus, under the guilt by association, I stayed away.
I know that all was not lost by the disappearance of the CMA, because the great Prime Minister has provided the expertise for the LH platform to Chrysler which meant goodbye to the stretched platform K Chrysler sells Horay.
Incidentally, you shop at a bone lot of interesting material Japanese garden in the background.
One of the technical features I noticed on the Alliance was that the water pump is very high rise Thus, the loss of about 2 liters of cooling system, which would be a problem minotr in another car, make water pump completely innefective, and strongly overheated and probably trashed engine result.
I went to a presetnation Teh Alliance when it was introduced, with senior engineers and managers and stykling AMC Most of the presentation revolved around how they settled on teh number of nuts Renault wanted to use 3, as they did in France in theory is quite AMC 3 5 wanted, like all the other cars it took, apparently, many trans-Atlantic conferences and negotiation at the highest level in 2 company, to settle 4 nuts.
When I realized that the Chrysler LH cars were made from a Renault platform, I decided not to invest in shares of Chrysler, then a little more than a dollar, I thought not Renault but well designed, would sell in America, I was wrong, and the stock is entered adolescence e without me.
the Lugnut engineering is one of those things that die hard fans of the automobile could find also interesting how engineers come to the conclusion of the fair number of lugnuts to use, it is one of those subjects old school who just occasionally when discussing how Chrysler left thread lugnuts on the wheel studs on the drivers side from 1940 1970.
The LH was not based off of a Renault platform more than 300 is a Mercedes E-Class Eagle Premier was used as a test mule for the new left front suspension A photo of that mule was published in the buff mags day and is probably the source of this rumor definitely AMC engineers now working for Chrysler what they have learned both Renault and work in a small company like AMC Jeep namely, how to do more with less in 1990-91 Chrysler stock fell to a low of 9 and some change per share while rumors of the new grand Cherokee, Viper, and LH cars were known, I told my doctor that s eye ' there were two large available, should buy in Chrysler when falling in the 15s it was higher at the time of my review and sell when it went up to 45 After the low of 9, he climbed over 65, I do not know if my m edical followed my advice, but it would have tripled his money.
This brings memories that I worked for many years at an AMC-Jeep dealer turned into Chrysler Alliance was a terrible car, really one of the worst P s OS ever built I remember the locket, we was saddled with them default VRP the V-6 has lost oil pressure as 80000 km and it was inevitable, there was no fixing the car was never designed for anyway V- 6 and while the steering equipment was like April 3 the way up the leg, which resulted in all being cooked by the exhaust manifolds it wasn ta big problem on the medallion, but when he grew up in LH, the substance was burn to a crisp in like a year.
The LH was really one of the worst cars ever made, the air intake is mounted low and facing the road and hit a large puddle of water can cause catastrophic engine failure we actually sold accrued them because they drove very well when new; he was just six months later, they began to self-destruction.
It is now all the vogue to beat Honda and Toyota, but things Big 3 built in the 90s was absolute trashola over all Japanese manufacturers now produce Heck Ford product in quantities that even comes near what they were even there fifteen years.
Fortunately, Frogmobiles are banned from these parts Just like their army, a car with a French DNA goes early.
I had a Renault 21 with the engine once, and it was an interesting beast July 1 liter, 90 HP if memory serves, but very fast speed Max was about 120 mph, exceeding a pleasure But you're right, the cooling system was poorly designed, always losing coolant, breaking pipes etc and the rest of the car was not better either, so I sold it and bought a Volvo 440 with the same engine type, and it was Bullitproof I guess it all comes to quality control.
Although the Alliance could be a selling point, it certainly wasn ta bad car by looking in particular gig I remember-Academy Award winning, but down on his luck-actor George C Scott peddling Alliance 1986 in television commercials a year later, AMC would cease to exist as chairman Lee Iacocca Chrysler would buy the company mainly for the Jeep brand from Renault.
Ironically, the AMC-Renault merger may be similar to the Chrysler-Fiat repeat history CONSIDER 30 years later with the 500 being Alliance today Only time will tell.
Uhm, no thank you One of the unfortunate consequences of being old is that you remember the things I remember the Renault basic disaster Alliance heater Legend has it that Renault were people who paid for trying to keep each of these cars to low even in junkyards where they let a new heater core in the box on the passenger side floor Why, you ask See recall information below.
However, while I am not sure that this alliance was the fix I actually do not think that even the replacement of heating cores were built to last 25 more years Used 1986 Renault Alliance reminds Reminder Date 1992-1904 -10 VISIBILITY defroster Components Cars DEMISTING SYSTEM ICE affected 540000 Summary thE END CAP CONNECT iNTERCHANGE HeAt S BASED SYSTEM thE dE ENGINE cOOLING COULD BREAK AND ALLOW cOOLANT HOT ESCAPE iN PASSENGER Consequences cOOLANT spread throughout the PASSENGER MAY CONTACT FEET oF S DRIVER AND aCCIDENT AS DRIVER STEAM THe CLOUD LIQUID hEATING WILL oN SURFACES AND wINDOWS ThE vISION DRIVER AFFECT S ANDCOULD RESULT IN AN aCCIDENT oF vEHICLE Remedy rEPLACE ThE bASE oF hEATING WITH cORE oF DIFFERENT dESIGN THAT WILL NOT BREAKING AND iN ThE LEAK PASSENGER Reminder date of 05/31/1988.
The Alliance and Encore were the Hyundai Excels their day, they sold a half million between them in 1986, but they were thin on the ground a few years later, the 83 and 84s junkyards struck before production ended in 1987 absolute garbage Just until I read an Austrian wrap auto magazines to their unique test year in a Renault 9, which is the version of the European market and COTY 1982 After a year, they took the car apart, which was their standard procedure to test wrap ups long term they discovered that many, many mechanical components of the Renault 9 were killed after one year, it was the worst car they ever have tested, and many European countries have built marginal cars at the time.
I remember that these cars have been recalled to the fundamental questions of heating in 1992, most of them were already in the junkyard, but Chrysler has had to find each of them that could eventually be returned to the street or used for parts and file a new heater core in I wonder how it took so long to get to the shredder I have not seen one in decades, even though there were probably 10 of them in my district in 1985.
None of the 80 could be as bad as the first Excel generation, not even the Alliance.
The Alliance and Encore were Hyundais 80s NO CASH, no credit, NO PROBLEMS high decibel sound ads.
Kenosha pumped 623,573 of these small Renaults for the US market, I'm having trouble finding the sales figures of the period of the collapse of Hyundai, but is likely to be less than the turnover of the States total STATES Hyundai Excel for 1st generation I have seen more than Excelle alliances and Encores in the years since 1990. what do you see more adventures in your pick-n-pull.
Very utilitarian looking, in some respects, as the Versa is now CD even managed to find a turbo thrash at some point because I think when they decided to make ice races, he promptly broke s turbo spit and on the exhaust pipe.
Believe it or not, the Alliance hawking actually sold quite well during his first two years on the market If I remember correctly, it was outsold the Ford Escort from subcompacts for 1983 Remember, when that car debuted, GM was still the old Chevette and VW Rabbit suffering from her makeover Americanization, and the quality less than stellar as the Omni and Horizon Chrysler had been for five years, without real change.
But the word around pretty quickly on the disastrous reliability, and sales tanked for 1985 The beginnings of the great line 1984 Civic, as well as much improved Escort in the middle of the model year 1985 didn t help.
My best story back Alliance in the mid 80, a high school friend and I were stopped at a fire in the Alliance and were subjected to the wrath of a Fleetwood Cadillac driven by a woman inattentive The insurance company has reached now the Alliance significantly shortened My dad boyfriend bought with an alliance which had suffered severe damage by the end of a few weeks, a Frankenstein Alliance emerged from the garage.
I once owned a 85 Still the GS hatchback version oi the Alliance; I think the CMA did much better on their half of the case that Renault construction quality It was good, he treated very well, but mechanically is another question; Renault Quality control was tied with GM's I had a lot of mechanical problems with it, and it certainly didn t help that the local dealer FrancoAmerican Couldn t seem to fix anything good I finally abandoned them and started going to an independent auto repair shop for a few years until the pressure plate on the clutch began to the south and then I parted with it My experiences with it confirmed my decision to never own another French car.
My uncle was a kind of alliance, and I remember him need to replace the CV joint boots apparently there is a large cone-like tool with which one is supposed to stretch the small opening of the new rubber shoe so one can slide on the CV bare knuckle I've never seen this tool, and I do not know how or if someone has changed.
My best friend's dad a used car manager at a Ford dealership in Florida, so they always had different cars in their driveway one day around 1994 it home for his daughter Alliance sedan 1984 There was actually pretty good as I stood there and I scratched my head in amazement he does bring this thing to the house, he said it was a good deal for him, he said that at the time courses Whenever I enter an alliance, regardless of the state it is 200 if Sá stick, and 400 if it is a car so basically bought her teenage daughter a car she drove 500 for a few years until he finally swapped out for a Tempo 89 here in my town in northern Michigan there, there is a lady who somehow has his hands on a 1987 cut I m guessing Alliance other than the noisy exhaust, it seems to be above medium lift form e in fact it has survived much better than the late nineties town and country, she had finally transported out because of its li terally rusting away in his driveway after only one year, so go figure.
Interesting that Robert Opron style Renault 9 11, which was the basis of the Alliance Given all Citroens that Styled with Renault and 25 Fire, it must have been either sleeping or Renault tight on him hard 9 Alliance one of the newer cars UN called I can think Request a five year old child to draw a square drive and there, you would have made a Moskvitch or Wartburg dandy 11 Again was better, but not by much.
I was driving a rental Alliance when they were first introduced there was a very smooth ride and plenty of interior space for a compact car time with automatic combination 4L 1, it has reliability problems woefully underpowered quickly killed his 87 reputation, the final year of production, AMC local distributor has sold its remaining inventory for new 3-4K a piece it was even less of a new Hyundai Excel.
This was the car that made a lot of CAPD biggest sin of cars like the look turbocharged Pontiac positively good 2000 comparison I remember seeing these turds for as little as 4 large brand new when they finally pulled the plug that was as cheap as you could get at the time, I owned a GM or Ford that time which was a big selling point of this car who liked to break down at the worst possible time, at least GM and Ford didn Wired t let us eat carrots heating and head gaskets and exterior trim didn t get all warped and falling.
The first car I ever owned was a spanking new 1984 Encore tour was sublime, the handling was quite good, and the cargo area could swallow almost everything Unfortunately, as someone else pointed out, the combination 1 4 with an automatic makes for a car that was so low power that it was very scary to drive, even in residential streets and constant velocity joints destroys boots very quickly trade in the car 2 5-1 years later was a whopping 50.
Let us pause and ponder how the Alliance has received 9 on its own ground.
At the time I was young and stupid Chevette I chose the Allied cause GM was just down the road for me at the time GM t mean I could visit cottage pop and mom in the sticks not having to worry about finding a replacement shield, etc. and so does my point, I do not think that the CMA has done a good job supporting the heating prob Ally course, but how many other competitors had reminded the Chevette remembers as indestructible, but I find the automatic choke an absolute bugger delaying and losing power and dangerous strand leaving me on the shoulder of HWY I remember too GM could not understand the problem as long as a sensor on the course Thermac Alliance April 1st with a car was slouch traffic but a Chevette with self was too.
My MIL had one of GTA versions of this car; I never led, but my BIL did, and he rather liked a little It came with a monochrome paint system very Sheik in the late 80 to 15 alloys with a version of Michelin X radians out and a transsexual to five speed, he ran through the hills of Pittsburgh, apparently having a lot of fun with it, but it suffered from the construction quality problems, nothing to do with my Bils hooning I do not remember what finally done but IIRC it traded in a Dodge Daytona IROC in 1990 for a then aged 50 year old woman, her mother had some interesting taste in cars, she seemed to like sports that Renault didn t last much longer than three years, I think the Daytona did in 1998.
Ok, I'll step and defend French cars Peugeot 504 D had a reputation for running forever I had a 87 Citroen CX GTI car Fabulous The only system that failed on me was the automatic transmission speed ZF 3 even Saab, BMW for failure because the car had sat for two years nine and clutch disintegrated material of the session Not difficult repair We liked the car, unfortunately it was totaled in an accident 4 car that I wish it had been a 5 speed wasn t the Omni Dodge really just a Simca Alfa in the 60s also used beautiful brass nuts, threaded against the driver's side only nuts so should be Maybe be that Chrysler Fiat will bring lug nuts kick offs Jaguar, also against thread.
1999 1 My Citroën is the most reliable car I've ever owned, and I had some Mercedes, Opels, and which delivers 30 MPG it when driven at a constant 100 mph and 33 to 80 mph constant, it is quiet, Light- foot, comfortable and out of passive safety, I can not think of a reason to replace it.
One of my best friends and had a compadre R11 again when we were in college, I remember it being a slow car, but it was comfortable and very stable.
These cars, R9 and R11 were one of the first classic The Renault SuperCinque must also be included in this list, they started using the transverse engines.
Rear suspension R11 R9 uses IIRC, torsion bars.
What I always remember I sat Renault car seats is the R19 16S, R21, R11 and even IIRC my friend had traded in Fuego seats had the most comfortable.
I have another friend who, having sold his oblique 6 Valiant, bought a R18 and a R21 and a MEGANE I.
My parents bought me a brand new incur in 1984 for my 16th birthday he had the speed for its small engine suprising, which really surprised me, and handling was supurb.
The one I had was a basic model bare bones with a four-speed manual transmission, but when I got stuck the car in reverse and when the clutch went out not long after, my father away because I was hard on it, I request vehemiatly denied.
While I was in the army, I found that my father had to replace the clutch in the car, he kept to himself, I laughed and told him he had to stop being so rough on she This created a triad of him telling me that he was just a follow-up when I was driving before taking away Less than a year later, I discovered that he had sold and took a beating on trade .
The reason why he sold the clutch had been replaced several times and I think it got stuck in a train again, although he refuses to talk about the car with me.
I really liked the car, but looking back, I'm glad I had my Toyota Celica.
Obviously POS comments were written by those who had made an alliance I owned a 1983 14 years and 136,000 miles in salt roads of Michigan and Illinois AMC remembered for the heater core that not without its own and 4 synchromesh gears once these have been set, it was the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned and enjoyed driving.
CJinIA I hope your father threw his mechanic Links on the gear lever need occasional adjustment and repack the CV joints with occeasional new boots But that was cheap maintenance Replacing three times Clutch You suffered a Piece flight in opposite direction when the shift link skipped a position, you can go under the car and just put back and you are on your way.
If you define this as a selling point, compare it to Subaru time, who locked the manual tranmission My friend when you tried to downshift to 3rd driving on a busy street or the Toyota Corolla that needed adjustments lifting constant mechanical valve or rotary motor Mazdas who dropped a motor to 40,000 miles.
I wish I could find a car today that has nearly 50 MPG was reliable and cheap and leads 16 if snow so also many of you have forgotten that Renault now owns more than Nissan and flat Platform R16 is alive in many of their products smaller infinitly They are better than the larger Altima and Maxima s s that yuck really drive will be interesting to see the influence on Renault new versions bigger this coming Nissans year.
Wow yes I still miss my Renault today, and it is interesting to read about the stability of the training and the experience of others when I had to check if mine had 4 wheel drive because I was still in fear how mine was driving in the snow, snow, any snow and ice incredible.
But I think mine had a deformed head, because the car would still overheating in summer Being an uneducated person having to make their way in the world, I'll never know if this was the reason why I did not want not the car more heat everything else was great I managed to get my Oldsmobile Ciera in trade for this and Ciera ran for a time long after I learned and helped in the car repair I wish it would have been the Renault, but Ciera did much also on snow too.
Thank you for reading, I always wonder what could have been my Renault 83 I owned, automatic, sunroof, boy how I wish the sun roof It was a unique car for sure, and I like things unique still miss the car.
car worse than I had ever I've lost count of the number of times he was in the store The timing belt broke twice and sacked valves He had overheating problems, oil leaks, water in the trunk, I forgot what else.
Too bad it was a fun car to drive but the quality control was less than zero.
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