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Zoe, the cute little French affordable electric car.
There are already two electric models in the Renault range, but are very interesting, they are electrified versions of gas cars Zoe isn t This is a clean sheet design, the first true electric vehicle of the French brand, designed entirely with European drivers in mind Renault is expected that successful, and he built the capacity to go with this ambition the Flins plant, just west of Paris, can build 150,000 annually battery will built again, starting next year, while the engine will come from Cléon, further west, to the real Zoe French car, a rare feat these days.
Zoe was unveiled in Geneva with immediate success thanks to its cuteness Many people have criticized the Nissan LEAF because of its design unoriginal, but no one will say that the Zoe Renault is a leader for decades in the design of small cars, and this model is the story of Zoe society looks good from all angles, and it was more enjoyable to discover the interior with its fantastic blue seats sky it's always terrible to a large lounge of car to see hundreds of cars with their inside a boring or dull gray beige Let's have more interior with bright colors the dashboard was not as enjoyable it doesn t look car is a large touch screen middle that looks like a smartphone, and in some ways it is a Renault said it is an integrated, connected multimedia system and system users will be able to download applications for the R-Link Store Zoe is the first car to get it, but it will also come to its petrol models course, there are several specific characteristics of the Electr ic car, like showing the radius of action the car with all the charging stations map by country, and their availability in real time, which may seem nice, but it may be superficial for a while it is important for a car to connect with its environment, but more important is the wheels connect to the road, and how the driver connects to the driving experience through the steering wheel.
Carlos Ghosn introducing the Zoe Renault in Geneva.
Zoe is FWD Its engine provides 65 kW to 162 lb-ft of torque maximum speed is 84 mph This is not a car for the autobahn, but it'll be perfect for driving every day, with 130 miles distance according to the European calculation methods Renault concedes that range in the real world will vary, and could go as low as 62 miles if the air conditioning is used up But for many drivers, the value of the normal range about 130 miles is real, and can even be improved Some guys last year, in an electric Renault Fluence went hypermiling, and reached 20 percent more range than the official value Zoe has a battery 22 kWh, and Renault says it has gained a lot with the braking recovery improvement compared to its other electric vehicles hasn your manufacturer revealed the weight of Zoe, but the length is 161 inches modest if Légeret é is expected compared to a Nissan LEAF, it's almost as much space in the front, and trunk space is equivalent Only the rear seat is significantly lower, but it'll be good for children.
The price of Zoe is about 20700 26500 the exchange rate today, not exactly cheap, but cost 22,500 Honda Insight in France with the French government gives a 5000 incentive to buy an electric vehicle, price is down to 15700 or 20700 US that's two-thirds of an idea that sounds good to me the only problem is that this price doesn t include the battery battery is rented at a price that varies according to the length of the contract and mileage the monthly fee is 79, about a hundred US dollars for a 3 deal of the year, driving 7,767 miles a year still sounds damn good.
If you count the price of the car 20700 and 8 rental battery 79 12 8 7584, you come to a total of 28,284, the equivalent of 37052.
At this price, it is expensive, since you only have a very small car and the limited range Renault is also expected to increase the size to make a car full size and lower price.
Currently the sheet is less expensive because it is included and the battery is almost full size but the trunk.
On the side of the beach, these low values should automatically induce the addition of an optional range extender microphone to allow more casual way.
Nissan-Renault may be the best strategy with three different business models to sell electric vehicles You Zoe renting his Nissan Leaf Battery The battery which is sold with the car and warrantied Then, the Fluence ZE, where battery is exchanged at a battery exchange station.
perhaps best Nissan-Renault is positioned in this way than any other EV manufacturer and can respond to customer demand in one of three ways Carlos Ghosn probably would LOVE to have Renault-Nissan dominate the market as Ev Toyota has dominated the hybrid market.
Priusmaniac At this price, it is expensive, since you only have a very small car and the limited range is now as the sheet is less expensive because it is battery included and is also almost complete size, but the trunk You compare the price US leaf with the EU Zoe price You must use the price of EU leaves.
If you want to include the battery rental prices include the expensive gas prices for ICE cars Oh, use the EU prices of oil, not the price of heavily subsidized US.
The thing that intrigues me most about Zoe - plus the cute Pokemon character-still-angry looking grill headlamp face - is the so-called Chameleon charger Item 4 of the press to his links KieJidosha bed post above as follows.
It is the first electric vehicle that can be charged at any up 43kW power level between 30 minutes and nine hours through its integrated Chameleon charger ZOE battery can be recharged in about an hour at 22kW fast charging stations that are technically simpler and more economical than the fast-charging stations the current intermediate power level ensures greater autonomy and has less impact on the grid of a 43kW charging station.
I would be interested in more information on this one What makes electrically speaking, Zoe different luxury versions of the sheet or iMiEV, which are equipped with two J1772 and CHAdeMO ports For that matter, what's selected port interface on Zoe.
And it is 22kW fast charging stations are these fundamentally different that Level 3 DC fast charge stations that appear slowly on US roads.
The price I have for both cars are as follows.
36990 to 37052 included the Nissan Leaf Battery for Battery for rent Renault Zoe 8 years inclusive.
Thus, it indicates a higher price for the sheet while the Zoe, especially since you still have t battery after 8 years and the miles per year in rent from the battery is limited.
In the long term, but the two cars donated t use gasoline and so are any interesting way.
Still not quite sure what makes the charger Zoe 43kW Chameleon so fundamentally different, or maybe better than what is available in other electric vehicles Renault Nissan leaf, etc. Everyone knows.
Priusmaniac, Thanks for digging into the actual costs I guess Zoe is for those who prefer to pay later when the sheet is for those who are willing or able to invest and the risks to the front to get a better long-term agreement.
Benjamin Nead, I am also curious Nissan reading Tesla playbook and make a charger that can do fast and slow loading This could certainly explain the apparent absence of a major port for several charging connectors.
Hoops, correction to my last post where I mixed and Zoe.
36990 to 28284 included the Nissan Leaf Battery for Battery for rent Renault Zoe 8 years inclusive.
So EVNow, you are right, the 8706 is cheaper Zoe the sheet.
Does anyone know how or Daimler Smart ForTwo Fiat 500 vehicles are sold each year in the US, I guess it just micro-car niche enough to be is not worth going after for vehicles electrical if it is a pitiful market anyway.
Priusmaniac At this price, it is expensive, since you only have a very small car and the limited range As is now the sheet is less expensive because it is included and the battery is almost full size but the trunk.
Zoe might be a very small car for the US market, but it's size will be well in Europe where there are hundreds of thousands of similar size around driving cars.
Former EV1 driver, the following U S sales data for the smart 2008 24622 2009 14595 2010 5927 2011 5208 2012 1265 YTD.
Here the U S sales data for the Fiat 500 was launched in March 2011 in the U S 19769 2011 YTD 2012 5138.
Indyflick, thanks for digging until it looks like a small enough market to introduce an electric vehicle in low price, low volume It really sounds like Zoe needs to focus outside the United States at least departure.
It is interesting that Europe should now be able to produce 150k of Zoe, 50k and 50k foil possible Fluence and Kangoo BEV next year some time so in total up to 250k units for 2013. This means Europe will not be behind the US and Japan in the race to build more BEV.
The Leaf sells 35990 in France Zoe sells for 28284 including 8-year lease of the battery.
Zoe is significantly more affordable than the sheet but has less space to the rear seat, but also more scope than the sheet I agree with Masson that Zoe is a very good deal Remember also those who buy a vehicle electric probably a second conventional car so the BEV will be their main car with the second conventional used car for long trips and vacations Zoe is perfect for travel and shopping that are probably 75 miles that most people .
What can we do with such a car if we have only one car and it is this one.
Gorr - I guess what we can do is the same as thousands of other EV drivers have with their cars - happy and live with them easily my challenge to you - understand how electric vehicles CAN work millions of drivers, instead of dwelling on small obstacles that now exist for some drivers the answer is that it can not be the best choice for a household with a car, it is that we have incalculable million housholds several cars could benefit from a small car like this as to replace the car ride gas.
All price comparisons in these positions with the sheet are misleading because they only help at the rental minimum battery which limits only 6,000 miles per year the rental cost is likely to be twofold to more typical 12-15k miles per year.
So not necessarily much cheaper than the sheet to a much smaller car.
Priusmaniac Some people in Europe do not want a larger car, which is the first small EV outside the Tesla Roadster to appeal to this crowd, I will gladly pay that price for a card that is smaller than the sheet, j hope they offer a 3-door version, not only a 5-door version.
Zoe the cute little French affordable electric car, cute, affordable, no.
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